This picture comes from Bob's house upstairs in his insulator room. Sorry for the back flash! He was a personal friend that I have known since the Brea, Ohio National. One of the ultimate insulator diggers along with the Carter Brothers and Paul Plunkett. He told me that in his digging over the years that he dug over 1,000 threadless wades alone! Not including all the other great finds that he has sold and shared over the years. Had a great memory for where he dug and what came from where. He marked his shards with the location. We as a hobby have lost a real collector and great friend.