Here's a closeup of the embossings on the two estate sale finds

(Left) [040] (F-Crown) W.E.MFG.CO. (F-Skirt) PATENT/DEC. 19. 1871 (R-Crown) W.U. (R-Skirt) B

(Right) [010] (F-Crown) W.E.MFG.CO. (F-Skirt) PATENT/APPLIED FOR (R-Crown) W.U.

Also look at the [id=470314688; rear view]