Picked up these six pieces last weekend. No embossing on any of them. The three with the pins still cemented in are the same and of the three others the two outside pieces are the same with very different glazes and the middle is similar but with the much smaller wire groove arrangement. Possibly the bottom three are Victors. Haven't quite got them keyed out yet, not sure the bottom middle is in Elton's book but I'm still checking. I'll post a second picture with a side view. Enjoy.