On occasion there's pictures or discussions about tie wires. Found these two around here the other day. Hemi-12 and Hemi-9. Not real old for these styles and no embossing errors or anything else of interest but if you want a couple pieces with steel tie wire still wrapped around 'em then here ya go. Take the pair for $5.00 + shipping. First email that says' "I'll take it.". No PayPal. Email with questions.