I can't make it to the Shupps Grove bottle show this year but I'm have'in a Shupps Grove dirt cheap sale just like I was dare !!!!!! Here's 8 VNM CD 160s + 2 that I just found in a box for a total of 10 for $21.35 shipped in the continental U.S, !! First email that says' "I'll take it.". No PayPal.