Very sad news for the pair of tramps here but GOOD news for some collector who cannot afford to own mint ones.CD 196 HGCO and a CD 200 STAR tramp insulators that both display ranging from mint(Star) to decent on the HG from the front sides. Rear sides of these suffered extensive damage to bases and the umbrella on the HG.Perfect hole fillers for someone on a tight budget who wants these to display good but cannot afford em VNM to mint. I repeat, these are in no way any form of the word perfect or close to. Specimens that display nicely. There's about $150-$170 value on the pair if mint. Pix of the rear sides on your req. First mail to me... $35 + actual shipping for the pair.