This CD 162 is what I would say most collectors would term a darker steel blue, and the other would be a shade of delft blue, the photo shows they're colors pretty well here. These both are clean, near mint pieces, the only thing to mention being a small peck on the upper wire ridge of each, at the back on the 164, on the side on the 164. $15 each, plus $5 per on shipping, or buy the pair and I pay shipping.