at my uncles, he had a few poles with hemi blue 19's on sidepins, that used to be his telephone line, so I climbed up and got them lol, 40 feet up, above the tree top, and 10 down from the primayr, about 4 feet down from the neutral. I was hopin for a pic of the sun setting behind me, but by the time I got to to the pole, and climbed it it was a bit too late, still a neat pic though, here I am safteying off.