these were short poles lol, there was also transposition brackets on each pole on the outsides of the arms. didn't manage to get one of those, we plan to return to the next stretch of poles, they were quite a bit taller. there is also an abandoned line that crosses this about a mile from here, I first saw it 4 years ago, and it was loaded with 4 arms. when we went back, the arms were gone and the cable tv company had strung cable on the poles.so we walked the line about 5 miles further, and found poles, but unfortunately the power co built a line right next to them to the point of where if you climbed the pole, you would be within 2' of the 13kv lines, and you would have to climb PAST the power, thes poles were taller than the power poles, and had 10 crossarm gains on the poles. this hunt tool place in Three Rivers, Michigan.