This photo is in response to David Dahle's observation about the similarities between these slim mold Hemingray 12s and CD 114 Hemingray 11. I can't say that I haven't considered that these 12s could be re-worked 11 molds, but I don't have the knowledge or expertise to say. I will be interested to see what the experts say. What I can tell you is that the three insulators pictured here are nearly identical in heighth, width at the base, and girth just below the upper wire groove.