CD 160 Mold and Shop Numbers

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* CD 160 ARMSTRONG [010] mold set was made in 1949.<ref>Andrew Gibson. Only one mold year has been found.</ref> * CD 160 ARMSTRONG [010] mold set was made in 1949.<ref>Andrew Gibson. Only one mold year has been found.</ref>
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* ARMSTRONG, WHITALL TATUM, and the 1934 HEMINGRAY set have never had a mold number over 16 found.<ref name="Gibson"/> * ARMSTRONG, WHITALL TATUM, and the 1934 HEMINGRAY set have never had a mold number over 16 found.<ref name="Gibson"/>
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* GAYNER - 1<ref name="Gibson"/>, 5<ref name="Gibson"/>, 7<ref name="Gibson"/>, 8<ref name="Gibson"/> * GAYNER - 1<ref name="Gibson"/>, 5<ref name="Gibson"/>, 7<ref name="Gibson"/>, 8<ref name="Gibson"/>
* HEMINGRAY (Dome) - unreported to date * HEMINGRAY (Dome) - unreported to date
-* K.C.G.W. - 2<ref name="Gibson"/><ref name="Rienstra">Arlen believes that these are style numbers, not shop numbers. "2" is the only reported number, and other K.C.G.W. styles have different numbers.</ref> 
* LYNCHBURG - "pinch dome" Gayner style: 4<ref name="Gibson"/>, 5<ref name="Stoudt">In the collection of Justin Stoudt</ref>, 7<ref name="Blair">In the collection of Steve Blair</ref>, 10<ref name="Wentzel">In the collection of Richard Wentzel</ref>. "fat dome" Lynchburg style: 1<ref name="Stoudt"/>, 2<ref name="Stoudt"/>, 4<ref name="Gibson"/>, 5<ref name="Stoudt"/>, 6<ref name="Stoudt"/>, 7<ref name="Gibson"/>, 8<ref name="Stoudt"/>, 10<ref name="Gibson"/>, 11<ref name="Stoudt"/> * LYNCHBURG - "pinch dome" Gayner style: 4<ref name="Gibson"/>, 5<ref name="Stoudt">In the collection of Justin Stoudt</ref>, 7<ref name="Blair">In the collection of Steve Blair</ref>, 10<ref name="Wentzel">In the collection of Richard Wentzel</ref>. "fat dome" Lynchburg style: 1<ref name="Stoudt"/>, 2<ref name="Stoudt"/>, 4<ref name="Gibson"/>, 5<ref name="Stoudt"/>, 6<ref name="Stoudt"/>, 7<ref name="Gibson"/>, 8<ref name="Stoudt"/>, 10<ref name="Gibson"/>, 11<ref name="Stoudt"/>
-* NO NAME - 2<ref name="Gibson"/><ref name="Rienstra"/>+ 
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* BROOKFIELD can be [010] or [015], but these are the same molds with and without drip points. * BROOKFIELD can be [010] or [015], but these are the same molds with and without drip points.
* HEMINGRAY is the [005] EIN. * HEMINGRAY is the [005] EIN.
 +* K.C.G.W. and NO NAME are listed in the Price Guide with [Number]. However, these are style numbers and not shop numbers.<ref name="Rienstra">Arlen believes that these are style numbers, not shop numbers. "2" is the only reported number, and other K.C.G.W. styles have different numbers.</ref>
==Footnotes== ==Footnotes==

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Contents

Mold Years

Mold Years
Year Armstrong
(1949)
Hemingray
(1934)
Hemingray
(1938)
Whitall
Tatum (1943)
1934        
1935   X[1]    
1936   X[1]    
1937        
1938   X[1]    
1939     X[1]  
1940        
1941        
1942        
1943       X(::)[1]
1944     X[1]  
1945        
1946        
1947     X[1]  
1948        
1949        
1950     X[1]  
1951     X[1]  
1952     X[1]  
1953 X[1]      
1954     X[1]  
1955 X[1]      
1956     X[1]  
1957        
1958        
1959        
1960        


N.B.

  • CD 160 ARMSTRONG [010] mold set was made in 1949.[2]
  • CD 160 HEMINGRAY [100] mold set was made in 1934. Large lettering.[3]
  • CD 160 HEMINGRAY [050] and [130] mold set was made in 1938. Small lettering.[4]
  • CD 160 WHITALL TATUM [020] mold set was made in 4Q 1943. Dots around year indicate the quarter.[5]
  • Years marked with a gray background do not exist. 1960 is an arbitrary date by which all CD 160s had certainly ceased being produced. Armstrong mold drawings for the CD 160 are marked "obsolete" as of 1957.[6]

Mold Numbers

Mold Numbers
Mold Armstrong
(1949)
Hemingray
(1934)
Hemingray
(1938)
Whitall
Tatum (none)
Whitall Tatum (1943)
0         X[1]
1 X[1]        [7]
2     X[1]   X[1]
3   X[1]   X[1]  [7]
4   X[1] X[1]   X[8]
5   X[1] X[1]   X[1]
6     X[1] X[1] X[8]
7     X[1]   X[8]
8   X[1]   X[1]  [7]
9     X[1]  [7]  [7]
10       X[1]  
11 X[1] X[1]   X[8]  
12          [7]
13   X[1] X[1]   X[1]
14   X[1] X[1]   X[1]
15 X[1]     X[1] X[1]
16 X[9]     X[8] X[1]
17     X[1]    
18          
19     X[1]    
20     X[1]    
21     X[1]    
22     X[1]    
23     X[1]    
24          
25     X[1]    
26          
27     X[1]    
28     X[1]    
29          
30     X[1]    
31     X[1]    
32          


N.B.

  • ARMSTRONG, WHITALL TATUM, and the 1934 HEMINGRAY set have never had a mold number over 16 found.[1]
  • The 1938 HEMINGRAY set has never had a mold number over 32 found.[1]
  • HEMINGRAY 1938 mold set comes in two styles. Molds 19, 20 and 30 are "fat", all the rest are "narrow".

Shop Numbers


N.B.

  • BROOKFIELD can be [010] or [015], but these are the same molds with and without drip points.
  • HEMINGRAY is the [005] EIN.
  • K.C.G.W. and NO NAME are listed in the Price Guide with [Number]. However, these are style numbers and not shop numbers.[13]

Footnotes

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 1.18 1.19 1.20 1.21 1.22 1.23 1.24 1.25 1.26 1.27 1.28 1.29 1.30 1.31 1.32 1.33 1.34 1.35 1.36 1.37 1.38 1.39 1.40 1.41 1.42 1.43 1.44 1.45 1.46 1.47 1.48 1.49 1.50 1.51 1.52 1.53 1.54 1.55 1.56 1.57 1.58 1.59 1.60 1.61 1.62 1.63 1.64 1.65 1.66 In collection of Andrew Gibson as of 06/06/2009
  2. Andrew Gibson. Only one mold year has been found.
  3. Andrew Gibson. O_4 is the only date marking found.
  4. Andrew Gibson. After discussion with Bob Stahr and Bill Meier at Springfield in 2006(?), it appears that the 1934 mold set was re-worked. The mold dates were blotted out, and re-engraved as 38, and the lettering was reduced in size. The would be the [130] with the blotout. It is unclear whether new molds were made or not, which would be the [050] without the blotout.
  5. Andrew Gibson. 43:: is the only date code found on this style.
  6. Andrew Gibson. Copies of Armstrong blueprints from Richard Wentzel show the mold for the CD 160, and they have a hand written "Obsolete 9/19/57" across one corner.
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 Missing per N.R. Woodward
  8. 8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3 8.4 8.5 In the collection of Terry Drollinger
  9. In the collection of N.R. Woodward
  10. 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4 10.5 10.6 In the collection of Justin Stoudt
  11. In the collection of Steve Blair
  12. In the collection of Richard Wentzel
  13. Arlen believes that these are style numbers, not shop numbers. "2" is the only reported number, and other K.C.G.W. styles have different numbers.

References

  • Blair, Steve. Photos by Terry Drollinger after seeing Steve's collection post-Springfield, 2008.
  • Drollinger, Terry. Various correspondence.
  • Gibson, Andrew. All in personal collection as of 06/09/2009 unless otherwise noted.
  • Rienstra, Arlen. Personal correspondence 6/11/2009.
  • Stoudt, Justin. Various correspondence.
  • Wentzel, Richard. Various correspondence.
  • Woodward, N.R. Various correspondence.
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