For yet another point of reference, here is a pic of the 3 AM TELs, note that one is Bkfld, then Hemi, then the mystery AT&T Denver mold, then a classic WFG Co from Valverde Glass works in Denver. I don't know who created this photo either, or I would give them credit for it. It was on ICON a few months ago. Please let me know if you made the pic so I can give you credit ! UPDATE: Ok, I heard from David Whitten drw90459@iglou.com, Dave gets the credit for this pic! And he was a gentleman and didn't flame me for posting it !! I love the people in this hobby.